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PursueGOD is a new kind of discipleship curriculum for an increasingly complicated world. We use podcasts on a variety of topics to offer no-nonsense answers to everyday questions. Then we organize these podcasts into series so you can use them to make disciples at church, home, or in the world. Here’s how it works:
- Pick a series from our homepage. There's plenty to choose from!
- Each series contains multiple lessons. Click on the numbered tabs to open each lesson.
- Start by listening to the podcast on your own, before you meet as a group. Take notes as needed, and listen again if it helps. Consider starting a discipleship journal to track what you're learning.
- Meet as a group to talk through what you learned from the podcast. Each lesson includes shownotes, talking points, and discussion questions. Click on the # tab to explore additional topics.
- Listen to the podcast above for more helpful tips or check out one of our many training series.
- Today we’ll contrast Saul and David to see what it takes to have a heart after God. Saul’s downfall exposes three spiritual drift patterns we all face: fear, expedience, and pride.
- Fear leads to disobedience. Saul acted out of panic instead of trust, showing that every sin begins as a failure to trust. 1 Samuel 13:8–14, Romans 14:23
- Expedience takes shortcuts, but obedience honors God’s commands even when it’s costly. Saul chose convenience over integrity. 1 Samuel 15:9, 15:21–22
- Pride values reputation over repentance. Saul confessed, but even his repentance was about saving face. 1 Samuel 15:30
- Saul represents human effort—trying to please God by our own strength. David represents grace—trusting the power of God’s Spirit. Every good thing that qualified David before God was rooted in Jesus. Revelation 22:16
- Read the talking points above as a group, including scripture references. What are your initial thoughts about these points or about the podcast lesson (see audio above)?
- “It’s possible to look the part and lack the power.” Explain this phenomenon in Saul’s life. Is it still true in politics today? Discuss.
- When have you acted out of fear instead of faith? What did that reveal about your trust in God?
- Why do shortcuts feel so tempting, even when we know obedience is better? Give an example.
- Saul wanted to “save face” after his failure. Share a time when you did this.
- Read Revelation 22:16. What does it mean that “Every good thing that qualified David before God was rooted in Jesus”?
- Where are you currently being tested in trust, obedience, or humility? What would it look like to respond with a heart like David’s?
● God develops His people in hidden places, not the spotlight. Like a photograph in a darkroom, His image forms over time. 1 Samuel 17:17–20.
● Destiny often arrives disguised as ordinary assignments. Faithfulness in “cheese runs” reveals true leadership. Matthew 25:21.
● Private victories protect public callings. David’s courage came from years of unseen faithfulness. 1 Samuel 17:34–37.
● Small private compromises lead to public collapse. Confession and accountability preserve your calling. James 5:16; Proverbs 28:13.
● God calls you to walk in your own armor — not to copy someone else’s. 1 Samuel 17:38–40.
● God prepares both the worker and the work. Every divine appointment is part of His design. Ephesians 2:10.
● Spiritual maturity means trusting God’s timing in the process, not rushing His promises. 2 Peter 1:3.
- Read the talking points above as a group, including scripture references. What are your initial thoughts about these points or about the podcast lesson (see audio above)?
- Why do you think God develops leaders in hidden seasons before public ones? Can you think of a time He prepared you quietly before a big moment?
- What are some “cheese run” moments in your life — small acts of obedience that revealed your heart?
- How can you win your “private battles” so you’re ready for public callings? What practical steps help with accountability?
- Why is it important to walk in your own armor instead of copying someone else’s calling?
- How does it encourage you to know that God prepares both you and your circumstances in advance?
- Which part of “the making of” process do you find hardest right now — waiting, trusting, or staying faithful? What truth from this lesson helps you persevere?
- Comparison strangles your joy. Saul lost his joy because he focused on David’s success instead of God’s goodness. 1 Samuel 18:6–9.
- Joy grows in gratitude, not in comparison. Psalm 34:10 teaches that God withholds no good thing from those who seek Him.
- Comparison stunts your growth. Saul stopped leading and started competing, wasting energy on jealousy instead of maturity. 1 Samuel 18:10–11.
- A peaceful heart leads to spiritual health, but jealousy eats away at you from the inside. Proverbs 14:30.
- Comparison steals your focus and traps you in sideways energy. Saul focused on David instead of God’s calling. 1 Samuel 18:12.
- What you stare at, you steer toward. Peter learned this when Jesus told him, “What is that to you? You follow me.” John 21:21–22.
- The gospel moves us from competition to confidence. Our identity comes from God’s love, not from outperforming someone else. 1 John 3:1.
- Read the talking points above as a group, including scripture references. What are your initial thoughts about these points or about the podcast lesson (see audio above)?
- When have you felt your joy decrease because you were comparing your life to someone else’s?
- Why do you think jealousy is described as “cancer in the bones” in Proverbs 14:30? How have you seen this play out?
- Where do you feel the pull to measure your progress by someone else’s pace?
- What does “sideways energy” look like in your life right now?
- Read John 21:21–22. How does Jesus’ response to Peter speak to your struggle with comparison?
- How does recognizing your identity in Christ (1 John 3:1) help you break free from comparison?
● David models five steps for keeping a clean heart when you’ve been wronged: take your pain to God, trust His justice, own your part, stay planted, and praise in the midst of pain. Psalm 52
● Biblical lament is honesty directed toward God, not people. Psalm 62:8
● God—not us—is responsible for justice. Revenge keeps us chained to our wounds. Romans 12:17–21, 1 Peter 3:9, Psalm 52:5–7
● Being wronged doesn’t automatically make you right. Healthy hearts own what’s theirs. Matthew 18:15, Psalm 139:23–24
● Healing is slow work, but planted people become fruitful people. Psalm 52:8, James 1:2–4, Galatians 6:9
● Praise is a path to freedom, even before we see resolution. Psalm 52:9, Genesis 50:20
● Jesus makes forgiveness possible by pouring His love into our hearts. Romans 5:5, 2 Corinthians 5:21
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Read the talking points above as a group, including scripture references. What are your initial thoughts about these points or about the podcast lesson (see audio above)?
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When have you struggled to take your pain to God first instead of venting to others? What happened?
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Why is revenge so tempting, even for Christians? How does Romans 12 reshape our response?
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Have you ever realized you had a part to own in a conflict—even when someone else wronged you more? What did you learn?
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What does “staying planted” look like for you right now? How can community help?
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Is there a situation where you need to add the “but God” to your story? Explain.
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Who do you need to bless, forgive, or pray for this week in light of what God has shown you?
- Discouragement begins with unsubmitted self-talk. David’s thoughts led him into Philistine territory instead of God’s promise. 1 Samuel 27:1–2.
- Ziklag represents settling—choosing comfort over calling and provision over promise. 1 Samuel 27:6–7.
- When Ziklag burns, follow David’s pattern: weep honestly, find strength in God, inquire of God, and obey promptly. 1 Samuel 30:3–9.
- God was working behind the scenes. While David fought the Amalekites, Saul fell in battle. The promise was closer than it appeared. 2 Samuel 1:1–4.
- Don’t quit in Ziklag. The enemy wins only when you give up. 2 Corinthians 4:16–18.
- Jesus faced His own “Ziklag” at the cross, proving that God brings victory from apparent defeat. Hebrews 12:2–3.
- Read the talking points above as a group, including scripture references. What are your initial thoughts about these points or about the podcast lesson (see audio above)?
- Where have you been tempted to “think to yourself” instead of seeking God’s perspective, like David in Ziklag?
- What is your personal “Ziklag”—a place of comfort or compromise you may have mistaken for God’s promise?
- Which of David’s responses—weep, strengthen yourself, inquire, or obey—is hardest for you right now?
- How do you typically handle seasons that feel like ashes or setbacks? What needs to change?
- Where do you sense God working behind the scenes in ways you can’t yet see?
- What would it look like to refuse quitting in your current season? What step of obedience is God asking you to take?
- Failure can become a doorway, not a dead end. David models godly sorrow that leads to real change. Psalm 51:3–4, 2 Corinthians 7:10.
- Humility is the hinge that opens the door of renewal. David owns his sin without excuses and seeks inner truth. Psalm 51:5–6.
- Repentance is more than behavior change; it’s God’s recreating work in the heart. Psalm 51:7–10.
- When God restores, He redeploys. Restored joy fuels renewed purpose. Psalm 51:12–13.
- God never rejects a broken and repentant heart—this is what separates David’s response from Saul’s. 1 Samuel 15:22–23, Psalm 51:16–17.
- Jesus is the one who makes renewal possible. He takes our sin and gives us His righteousness. 2 Corinthians 5:21.
- Read the talking points above as a group, including scripture references. What are your initial thoughts about these points or about the podcast lesson (see audio above)?
- Why do you think success can sometimes create more danger for our hearts than adversity?
- What’s the difference between godly sorrow and worldly sorrow in your own words?
- Why is humility so essential for repentance? Share an example where humility opened a door for growth.
- Where have you experienced God recreating your heart rather than just improving your behavior?
- Who in your life could benefit from hearing how God has restored you?
- In what area do you need to pray David’s prayer: “Create in me a clean heart, O God”?
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- Balaam and the Donkey
- The Snake On a Pole (Numbers 21)
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- The Biblical Theme of “the Holy Spirit”
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